Desmo servicing?

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What is the collecting wisdom on 749 Desmo servicing?


My 749 had a full Desmo service at 21,897 miles in March 2018.
Since then it has been started and run for 10 minutes every month Sept 2018, but has only done 22,169 miles.
So that's 272 miles in less than three years.

When should it have another Desmo service?
 
What is the collecting wisdom on 749 Desmo servicing?


My 749 had a full Desmo service at 21,897 miles in March 2018.
Since then it has been started and run for 10 minutes every month Sept 2018, but has only done 22,169 miles.
So that's 272 miles in less than three years.

When should it have another Desmo service?
27,897 miles or whenever you fancy getting your hands grubby 👍
 
14 years and 6,000 miles 😁
were there not many cars around?

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don't forget that the desmo 'service' can ammount to not much more than a clearance check with nothing being done if they're all in tolerance.
in the case of a 749r whos heads are a work of art they rarely if ever need adjusting unless they're being used on track.

Even belts, if you're going to lay the bike up for a very long time, just slacken the tension off, and retighten when you recommission the bike, failing that once every couple of weeks get your crank turning tool in there and spin it around for a couple of minutes - which gets the oil pump doing its job as well, and should be something you do when recommissioning an engine anyway as it means you start to pump oil without cranking the thing over - especially on an injected bike which starts fuel priming and spraying the minute the ignition is turned on.

Also as @BobTheBounder and @WAYNE have touched on, there's manufacturer due dilligence and safety factor to consider. If gates / ducati etc. are telling you that 2 years is long enough for those belts, then you can be sure the safety factor is 25-50% that again. No manufacturer is going to put their cock on the block and engineer something without some major slack in it becuase you always design for the lowest common stupid denominator i.e. the customer, unless you're a race team, where you're literally trying to design something that will last no more than the full race distance plus the time it takes to roll back into the pit garage - at which point it can shit itself royally as it's job is done.

A belt four years just tuned by hand every couple of weeks (total of probably what, 20 revolutions) is different to a belt that's been run under load and in anger for two years. Turnt he thing by hand and you still probably won't subject it to the loads it sees in one minute of actually idle running.
 
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don't forget that the desmo 'service' can ammount to not much more than a clearance check with nothing being done if they're all in tolerance.
in the case of a 749r whos heads are a work of art they rarely if ever need checking unless they're being used on track.

Even belts, if you're going to lay the bike up for a very long time, just slacken the tension off, and retighten when you recommission the bike, failing that once every couple of weeks get your crank turning tool in there and spin it around for a couple of minutes - which gets the oil pump doing its job as well, and should be something you do when recommissioning an engine anyway as it means you start to pump oil without cranking the thing over - especially on an injected bike which starts fuel priming and spraying the minute the ignition is turned on.

Also as @BobTheBounder and @WAYNE have touched on, there's manufacturer due dilligence and safety factor to consider. If gates / ducati etc. are telling you that 2 years is long enough for those belts, then you can be sure the safety factor is 25-50% that again. No manufacturer is going to put their cock on the block and engineer something without some major slack in it becuase you always design for the lowest common stupid denominator i.e. the customer, unless you're a race team, where you're literally trying to design something that will last no more than the full race distance plus the time it takes to roll back into the pit garage - at which point it can shit itself royally as it's job is done.

A belt four years just tuned by hand every couple of weeks (total of probably what, 20 revolutions) is different to a belt that's been run under load and in anger for two years. Turnt he thing by hand and you still probably won't subject it to the loads it sees in one minute of actually idle running.
Well said that man 👍
 
Bear in mind as well that the belts aren’t lifed.
Its not like you have a production date and a use by date on them, hence you could be flogged a set of belts a dealer has had on a shelf for six years.
 
Same with tyres. The assumption is that they are new as they are newly fitted. It's always worth checking the date on the sidewalls
 
Bear in mind as well that the belts aren’t lifed.
Its not like you have a production date and a use by date on them, hence you could be flogged a set of belts a dealer has had on a shelf for six years.
Exactly, and ones that have been stored in the light. I once saw OEM belts on EBay from a main dealer with an 8 year old superseded part number. Stock rotation must be questionable throughout the supply chain even if the dealers have a good system in place that is followed.
CCW purchase direct from their manufacturer monthly and I get then delivered in bulk before they sleeve them so the majority of our belts are only a month old when I receive them - and I use a 2 bin rotation system so never carry old belts and always store dry and dark 😊
 
Same with tyres. The assumption is that they are new as they are newly fitted. It's always worth checking the date on the sidewalls
And remember that pirelli amongst others guarantee them for 10 years from manufacture date, so bollocks to all the magazines saying you must bin them after 5 🙄
 
That’s what I thought.

Mind you the padding in my 25 year old Arai is a bit thin these days, I wouldn’t want to put it to the test so it’s in the back of the cupboard since a couple of years back, not sure why I’m keeping it really🤔.

Anyway, I checked for a date on my other helmets and couldn’t find one so have no idea how old they are 😕
 
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