end of SC production what is next?

Gizmo

Gizmo

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I'd heard rumours the end of the Sport Classic line is close with the GT1000 ending probably ending production this year, sadly sales are small and Ducati dont seem to want to develop the line :(

This got me thinking as to what I would bring in if I was Ducati, given that the new bikes really dont tempt me I'd still be looking for something with a more classic look, early/mid 80's, hmm not that much of interest but possibly an F1 using a 796 motor but then I thought about taking an 848 motor, increase capacity to 851cc, water cooled, 4 v head nice white frame, twin sided swingarm larger sports bodywork with a slightly higher bar postion for the more mature rider

Possibly do 2 versions with a more tourer model, possibly totally enclosed with fairing or even a limited edition race rep as well

hmm do you see where I'm going.....848 engine already exists, they must have loads of old frame drawings of 851/888 possibly even get fairing to fit and there's an increasing demand for 851 and 888's as is.

The sad thing is it would probably sell better than SF's but they'ed never do it :(
 
I always liked the idea of the Sport Classic range but the execution I felt fell short with the initial launch.
You really need that "wow that looks great" factor which I don't think it had initially.
You look at the new Norton and it has it and yet from the road tests is probably inferior to the Ducati.
The Sport Classic range had bits I liked and bits I didn't and seemed to work better in some colours (red) and looked nothing in others.
Single/twin shock change and that original exhaust just did nothing for the bike.
By the time the bike had been tweaked a lot of potential buyers were off elsewhere. I always had this feeling Ducati launched it and developed it in a half hearted way. Walking away now just reinforces my opinion.
There is and will be a growing market for the "classic" look and I hope Ducati have something in the pipeline.
Something based on an F1 or a bevel Sport (yellow/black) or SS with a nose fairing (black/gold or blue/silver) would be easy to do and would sell.
A single would surely appeal as something different but there would be development costs with the engine. Although if you had the single you could do a Supermono tribute in addition to a Scrambler etc.
 
Gizmo said:
I'd heard rumours the end of the Sport Classic line is close with the GT1000 ending probably ending production this year, sadly sales are small and Ducati dont seem to want to develop the line :(

This got me thinking as to what I would bring in if I was Ducati, given that the new bikes really dont tempt me I'd still be looking for something with a more classic look, early/mid 80's, hmm not that much of interest but possibly an F1 using a 796 motor but then I thought about taking an 848 motor, increase capacity to 851cc, water cooled, 4 v head nice white frame, twin sided swingarm larger sports bodywork with a slightly higher bar postion for the more mature rider

Possibly do 2 versions with a more tourer model, possibly totally enclosed with fairing or even a limited edition race rep as well

hmm do you see where I'm going.....848 engine already exists, they must have loads of old frame drawings of 851/888 possibly even get fairing to fit and there's an increasing demand for 851 and 888's as is.

The sad thing is it would probably sell better than SF's but they'ed never do it :(
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Dont tell me your too fkin old to ride the new Multi!! :eek:
 
i like a lot the idea to reanimate the sport classic range with a replica of the 80' but i'm afraid the sales won't satisfy at least the factory like they did with the first sc-series.

also sympathic is the dream of the return of a single cylinder engined bike range. a pretty lightweight watercooled engined bike like the supermono was. this engine platform could fire also different vehicle concepts.

but due to rules developements in both series (motogp+wsbk) probably the future range will see the v2 concept in general as sport classics instead of v4 sports bikes. they will gain the needed power to compete in one or both or a future series in between.
 
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petzi said:
i like a lot the idea to reanimate the sport classic range with a replica of the 80' but i'm afraid the sales won't satisfy at least the factory like they did with the first sc-series.

also sympathic is the dream of the return of a single cylinder engined bike range. a pretty lightweight watercooled engined bike like the supermono was. this engine platform could fire also different vehicle concepts.

but due to rules developements in both series (motogp+wsbk) probably the future range will see the v2 concept in general as sport classics instead of v4 sports bikes. they will gain the needed power to compete in one or both or a future series in between.
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I agree that the racing pedigree is what drives Ducati but not everyone wants a race replica and Ducati throughout their history whilst producing road going versions of the race bikes have produced "sporting" road bikes in addition.
There are a number of folk on here moaning that they can't find a replacement for the ST range etc.
Retro done well will sell.
Triumph seem to be doing ok with their Bonnie and Thruxton range.
The new Multi is a fantastic bit of kit and will probably draw sales away from the SF and some of the potential Suberbike buyer, but I don't need 150bhp and if I was planning on using the performance would rather have a full fairing.
If the factory keep going the way they are at present they could become a one trick pony if suddenly the market changes.
 
petzi said:
but they got now a perfect, ok a bit stronger replacement with the multi.
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Rubbish! The Multi is taller, has a higher more upright riding position, no lower weather protection and it's PLUG UGLY :thumbsdown:
If Ducati think that the Multi is a bike for everyone they are kidding themselves.
From what I gather from ST Forums, most sport touring riders would prefer a 1098 with a slightly more raised riding position, a bigger tank, a fuller fairing and provision to fit panniers. That's certainly my position.
 
do you think really they will offer a sport tourer in addition to the multi which is in their official statements a "long distance tourer" ?

naturally the details (ride pos etc.) are different to a st but the purpose is imho the same. and is it 'plug ugly' ? well, depends from everyones single view. you've got a great st - simply keep it :)
 
Derek said:
Rubbish! The Multi is taller, has a higher more upright riding position, no lower weather protection and it's PLUG UGLY :thumbsdown:
If Ducati think that the Multi is a bike for everyone they are kidding themselves.
From what I gather from ST Forums, most sport touring riders would prefer a 1098 with a slightly more raised riding position, a bigger tank, a fuller fairing and provision to fit panniers. That's certainly my position.
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I agree with Petzi - I don't think there is much chance of Ducati releasing another sport touring bike any time soon. When you look at the sales of the old ST and old Multi neither looked very good after the first year or so, and the new bike is an attempt to consolidate the two. The increased power, gadgetry, longer wheelbase and tall screen are a nod towards touring beyond what was present in the original bike. The marketing message seems to reinforce that.

I guess you have the new Honda VFR1200, and the coming soon Triumph Sprint ST, plus the usual range of BMWs and Jap offerings to choose from. No Ducati's though.
 
I agree that the's not much chance of Ducati coming up with another ST but disagree that the new Multi is the perfect replacement.
 
I didn't realise what a big bike the Multi was until I saw it in the flesh.
I would think anyone under 5'9" is going to struggle unless there is a way of dropping the seat height.
I'm not sure I would be happy as a pillion sitting up there in the breeze for long distances either.
But without full weather protection it will never be considered by folk looking for a proper tourer.
I do think it is a very good all round bike.
 
ok, maybe the word 'perfect' was a bit too hard for touring riders which uses st's, sprint's etc. with likely more weather protection.

after all i noticed the factorys goal was to compete e.g. with bmw's gs and this bike is also well-known for touring/travelling all around with not much more protection.
 
petzi said:
ok, maybe the word 'perfect' was a bit too hard for touring riders which uses st's, sprint's etc. with likely more weather protection.

after all i noticed the factorys goal was to compete e.g. with bmw's gs and this bike is also well-known for touring/travelling all around with not much more protection.
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I think where the GS (and the Multistrada) fall down is at sustained high speed - an autobahn for example. They are harder work than a fully faired bike, especially when the weather isn't good.

However, I would rather have a Multistrada-type bike than a sports touring bike, so I can't complain. Except for the price being out of my reach of course!
 
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