Jerez Predictions?

Don't really care about Lorenzo, Stoner et al. I was applauding Hayden for spirit and Cructhlow for determination. Imho the old guard is changing get used to it. Rossi has nothing to prove I wish everyone would get off his back.
 
Trish said:
To be honest im sick of all the Rossi abuse at the end of the day what does he have to prove he's been there done it all and won it all ........SEVERAL times. Think about it Stoner won the race but hey who is everybody talking about ...............yep Rossi .....says it all really even when he's coming in at the back . Put up two stalls one selling Valentino Rossi stuff one selling Casey Stoner stuff then add up sales at the end of the day i bet I can guess who still sells the most.

Stoner can win every race of the season and Rossi will still be better than him and still have more fans:D
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Didn't realise the compition was for selling Tat !
As I have said many times,the reason I'm on Rossi's case is because he is on a Ducati,I did't talk about him when i rode a jap. The comments regarding Stoners front end issues in his last year on a Ducati by Burgess have proved a little missguided to say the least !
The Champ is the only person to master the bike,Nicky to a lesser extent can ride it.
Rossi/Burgess have simply bitten off more than he can chew,nobody ,including me, has disputed what he's won previously but now its time for the has been to move along,all he has done is spend a fortune f*cking up a half decent bike.
 
CJK said:
The Champ is the only person to master the bike,Nicky to a lesser extent can ride it.
Rossi/Burgess have simply bitten off more than he can chew,nobody ,including me, has disputed what he's won previously but now its time for the has been to move along,all he has done is spend a fortune f*cking up a half decent bike.
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Ignoring VR, NH finishing 9th is hardly showing it is a half decent bike.
You have to look at the race results for the last few years and fact is other than Stoner no-one has got on with the bike. And to say he got on with the bike is probably an exaggeration, he was constantly on the point of binning it to get the results.
Melandri is/was no muppet and look what happened with him.
The odd glimmer of hope in qualifying on a wet track or NH starting 3rd is not converting to results.
Unless results improve in next couple of races I think folk may have to realise that this bike with it's engine configuration is going to need a radical change.
 
239desmo said:
The odd glimmer of hope in qualifying on a wet track or NH starting 3rd is not converting to results.
Unless results improve in next couple of races I think folk may have to realise that this bike with it's engine configuration is going to need a radical change.
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I totally agree with all your points Stewart. This post from motomatters gives some kind of explanation of the good wet weather performance:

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/04/27/2012_jerez_motogp_friday_round_up_of_wea.html

And it also points to the problem not being with the chassis, but with the engine.

The other problem is clearly one of power delivery. The engine is too aggressive, and this makes managing the throttle through the corners quite a handful. Too much electronic intervention is required to tame the power delivery, and this is interfering with the connection between the rider's right wrist and the power at the back wheel. The reason the bike improves massively in the wet is because the engine never really gets into its power band, the bike spinning up well before the engine turns vicious. Andrea Dovizioso put it very well, when he said "the best riders in the wet are the ones that use the least throttle." Gentle, smooth, coaxing the bike forward is the way to go in the wet. Once the track dries, and the wet mapping cutting power by 20-odd percent is replaced with the full-fat fire-breathing one, the bike once again becomes unmanageable.

Ducati's savior may come in the unlikely form of Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta. Ezpeleta is determined to push through a rev limit - looking increasingly like it will be set even lower than expected, at 14,500rpm, rather than 15,000 - and such a rev limit will terminate Ducati's wild goose chase for power. Filippo Preziosi seems to believe that Ducati's strength lies in exploiting the advantages of the desmodromic system to create more power at high revs, while all of the riders say that the engine is already too powerful and too aggressive. A lower rev limit will force Ducati to create an engine with a wider powerband, while still benefiting from the lower power losses of the desmodromic valves when compared to a conventional spring.
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If all four Ducati riders are saying the same thing, and all are experiencing poor results, it's unlikely that the riders are the problem. It looks very much like the combination of Casey Stoner riding out of his skin + a huge power advantage in the first year of the 800cc bikes was responsible for the championship in 2007.
 
miloVanMultistrada said:
the combination of Casey Stoner riding out of his skin + a huge power advantage in the first year of the 800cc bikes was responsible for the championship in 2007.
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miloVanMultistrada said:
If all four Ducati riders are saying the same thing, and all are experiencing poor results, it's unlikely that the riders are the problem. It looks very much like the combination of Casey Stoner riding out of his skin + a huge power advantage in the first year of the 800cc bikes was responsible for the championship in 2007.
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Obviously Filippo Preziosi must read DuN... ;)

Preziosi: New Ducati engine set for Laguna Seca
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/preziosi+press+conference
 
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