What have you done on your bike today?

A quick google indicates the CF Moto bike range is distributed by Pierer Mobility AG across Europe, which equates to just one KTM dealer, do that’s got a big ? mark over its viability then. It’s a shame really as I’m window shopping for a light smallish capacity bike.


Have a go on the Maverick when you come over to service the Multi you won’t be disappointed.
 
A quick google indicates the CF Moto bike range is distributed by Pierer Mobility AG across Europe, which equates to just one KTM dealer, do that’s got a big ? mark over its viability then. It’s a shame really as I’m window shopping for a light smallish capacity bike.
Is a BMW 310gs an option ? @Loz has one and his posts on here about it have been overwhelmingly positive.
 
A similar BMW model is due to be rolled out soon, a 450cc.
It isn't an evolution of the baby GS but it is a comparable bike where the question of the G310 being "underpowered" is addressed.
What i have noticed over the last two years is motorcycle companies moving into smaller CC bikes!! There has also been a lot of motorcycle dealers closing this year as i have seen quite a few vids on youtube about this and it's all happened under the radar!! 🤷‍♂️
 
What i have noticed over the last two years is motorcycle companies moving into smaller CC bikes!! There has also been a lot of motorcycle dealers closing this year as i have seen quite a few vids on youtube about this and it's all happened under the radar!! 🤷‍♂️
The number of bits of road that you can use even a reasonable fraction of the performance of a superbike or a hyper-sports bike are shrinking faster than the chances of Britain remaining a liberal democracy.

Personally, I'd argue that building more race tracks for trackdays should come before more public roads and more cash-cameras. Priorities.
 
A quick google indicates the CF Moto bike range is distributed by Pierer Mobility AG across Europe, which equates to just one KTM dealer, do that’s got a big ? mark over its viability then. It’s a shame really as I’m window shopping for a light smallish capacity bike.
Not sure what you just said there as you dropped into West Corkshire Oirish half way through the sentence - Pierer Mobility AG own KTM, is that what you were saying when you slipped into Oirish?


PIERER Mobility and CFMOTO strengthen partnership As a sign of the deepening of the cooperation, CFMOTO has increased its stake in the stock listed PIERER Mobility AG to two per cent. In January 2023, KTM took over the distribution of CFMOTO motorcycles in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Spain and Great Britain.
 
A quick google indicates the CF Moto bike range is distributed by Pierer Mobility AG across Europe, which equates to just one KTM dealer, do that’s got a big ? mark over its viability then. It’s a shame really as I’m window shopping for a light smallish capacity bike.
I bought this bike mainly based on reviews backed up by a brief test ride. Other bikes I rode while I was looking were an SWM 650 Superdual and a BMW650 Dakar.The CF is way nicer to ride than both but underpowered compared to the SWM. Was considering a DRZ400 or maybe DR650 but my mate talked me out of it. The Mofo(thanks Noobie) is selling out eveywhere and I got lucky with mine and didn't have to wait until next year as the next two shipment were already presold.
Was an absolute hoot hopping back on my S4R after doing a couple thousand km on the Mofo.
 
Have a go on the Maverick when you come over to service the Multi you won’t be disappointed.
I quite like the CCM’ especially the new ‘scrambler’ version they’re brining out. The only issue here is getting them out of the UK and into the EU.
ps, that’s why yours has wavy discs, harking back to their off road heritage.

Is a BMW 310gs an option ? @Loz has one and his posts on here about it have been overwhelmingly positive.
Possibly but perhaps underpowered, overweight and over priced, however still a possibility.

Plenty of Suzuki dr400's kicking around. Easy to work on, parts readily available and can be a dirt plugger or supermoto depending on your wheel option.
Not so many over here, in fact they’re very few and far between, mostly as they’re in demand and owners hang on to them. A good choice however, plus Suzuki are relaunching them soon.

Not sure what you just said there as you dropped into West Corkshire Oirish half way through the sentence - Pierer Mobility AG own KTM, is that what you were saying when you slipped into Oirish?


PIERER Mobility and CFMOTO strengthen partnership As a sign of the deepening of the cooperation, CFMOTO has increased its stake in the stock listed PIERER Mobility AG to two per cent. In January 2023, KTM took over the distribution of CFMOTO motorcycles in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Spain and Great Britain.

🤣 yes, very much gibberish and I hadn’t even Had a Christmas drink then. I have now 👍. Blame auto correct spell checker bolx thingy.
Pierer distribute CF Moto. Pierer are bust. We only have one Pierer (KTM) dealer here and they’re shite anyway so I think the chances of them being a good dealer for CFM are very low.

Triumph 400X.
This is looking favourite at present for sure. Although a Ducati 698 mono with a 19 or even 21” front wheel with spokes is looking even more favourite (although it’s 2X the price 😕)
 
I also considered the Triumph but it is thin on the ground here at the moment. It is made by Bajaj in India and so I guess it is directly competing with RE in that market and like RE probably has it's share of anti Indian detractors around the globe. My DIL did a heap of pdi's on RE's and didn't have much bad to say about them although there is always that "one" bike.
The RE 450 Himalyan is the bike most of the comparisons with CFmoto 450mt are done about and with very favourable outcomes
 
@West Cork Paul , if you you get a little bike do you fancy doing the Malle Rally next year?
Anyone else fancy it?
I had to look that up


but it looks interesting and fits in with next years timetable for me (May is out of the question for a tour as we’re going to Singapore & Indonesia 26/4 to 22/5).

I’ll look at it in more detail in the morning when I’ve sobered up 🤣 Xmas started early. Only went for ‘one’ drink but ended up in a tequila shotathon 😕
 
I also considered the Triumph but it is thin on the ground here at the moment. It is made by Bajaj in India and so I guess it is directly competing with RE in that market and like RE probably has it's share of anti Indian detractors around the globe. My DIL did a heap of pdi's on RE's and didn't have much bad to say about them although there is always that "one" bike.
The RE 450 Himalyan is the bike most of the comparisons with CFmoto 450mt are done about and with very favourable outcomes
A 450 Himalayan is in the mix but it’s still a bit on the heavy side. The Triumph is lighter and it’s a top selling bike so people mst know something.

A KTM 690 R Enduro is lighter still.

As is the Hypermotard 698
 
The BMW 450gs is going to be the bike to watch imo. I thought about just waiting until it comes here, as we normally get these models early on, but it is too far out to predict when it might turn up. The motor is maybe made by Loncin in China? But otherwise the machine is entirely manufactured and assembled in India. The specs are awesome tho and it will be interesting to see if it is the first mid size adventure bike to come std with cruise control? I am aware the Tuareg 650 has it but it also is more than twice the price of the current 400-500’s
 
Half the battle is getting enough seat time on everything before you make a decision. I rode bikes that are better off road but just not ideal for adventure touring. And renting them for a day or so is prohibitally expensive.
 
I had to look that up


but it looks interesting and fits in with next years timetable for me (May is out of the question for a tour as we’re going to Singapore & Indonesia 26/4 to 22/5).

I’ll look at it in more detail in the morning when I’ve sobered up 🤣 Xmas started early. Only went for ‘one’ drink but ended up in a tequila shotathon 😕
Be careful in Singapore, Paul.
Don't be tempted to throw up a shed or fix up a roof while you're there - they have very strict rules and very harsh sentences for transgressirs.

Edit: and transgressmadams
 
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Half the battle is getting enough seat time on everything before you make a decision. I rode bikes that are better off road but just not ideal for adventure touring. And renting them for a day or so is prohibitally expensive.
This is true. You really need a bike for a whole day, at least. Go for a long ride. Take it home, have a rest, open the garage door agin and see how you feel about it, ride it again. If at the end of the day you dont want to give it back, it's the bike for you.
I bought my KTM 1190 like that. My 990 SMT went to a dealer for something, can't remember what, think it might just have been a set of tyres. But they were squeezing me in and didn't know when they could get it done so they just said get it here for 8 am, leave it with us all day, we'll give you a load bike, and come back at 5 pm and we'll have got yours done somehow.
I'd been wanting a big adv bike for touring and couldn't make up my mind whether to go for a 1200 GS or an 1190. They gave me an 1190 as a loan bike. I went for a 50 mile ride, then went to a BMW dealer and jumped on a GS for a direct comparison. The 1190 won hands down. I was happy to hand the GS back and get back on "my" KTM. I rode it all over the place for most of the day, went home for an hour, rode it again and knew it was a keeper. I didn't actually buy that one, which was a demo bike. I bought a better one which was a low-miles, one-owner minter. 60,000 miles later I've still got it and will never get rid of it.
 
I had to cut a ride short last week, I thought my chain had suddenly decided to give up the ghost, so ordered a new one. Couple of days later, the chain and sprockets turned up so I set about changing them. It wasn’t the chain and sprockets, it was a rear wheel bearing in the sprocket carrier making the racket. Bugger. Fitted new wheel bearings, came to assembling and lo and behold the wheel adjustment bolt was seized, wouldn’t go in or out, solid. Penetrating oil, heat, percussion. I’ve not got it out, but I have got it in far enough to connect the new chain.

Anyway, MIL turned up at 10:55, me at 11.


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Came home, opened prezzies, a new compressor, heated jacket, a jigsaw (A to Z Sheffield map), a hat, couple of books and sundries.
Ate too much.
Off into the garage.
Top day.
Shalom.
 
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I had to cut a ride short last week, I thought my chain had suddenly decided to give up the ghost, so ordered a new one. Couple of days later, the chain and sprockets turned up so I set about changing them. It wasn’t the chain and sprockets, it was a rear wheel bearing in the sprocket carrier making the racket. Bugger. Fitted new wheel bearings, came to assembling and lo and behold the wheel adjustment bolt was seized, would go in or out, solid. Penetrating oil, heat, percussion. I’ve not got it out, but I have got it in far enough to connect the new chain.

Anyway, MIL turned up at 10:55, me at 11.


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Came home, opened prezzies, a new compressor, heated jacket, a jigsaw (A to Z Sheffield map), a hat, couple of books and sundries.
Ate too much.
Off into the garage.
Top day.
Shalom.
Back in from the garage, I can’t get my compressor out of its box. Too much food (and I’m a bit stoned) On settee for foreseeable…
 
and, when they want to, the Chinese Govt will take over your bike and you will only be able to ride it where they permit you to and if you go off course they will remotely shut down the ECU. They will be monitoring your every move through the 5G network and whilst you’re standing on the side of the road you shouldn’t be on, with a non-responsive bike, they will send their army of drones to fly in and pick you up and take you to a secret location onboard an invisible ship in the Pacific ocean where you will be injected with a gene altering vaccination that will ensure, once the drones return you, you never deviate from the correct path again.

Oh, and, you don’t have a Huawei phone do you? Because if you do, you are so fooked.

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Who said u can't teach old Dog new tricks 😆😆
 
A quick google indicates the CF Moto bike range is distributed by Pierer Mobility AG across Europe, which equates to just one KTM dealer, do that’s got a big ? mark over its viability then. It’s a shame really as I’m window shopping for a light smallish capacity bike.
Overlanders in gorey had a load of the brand at one stage 🤔
 
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