What about them ?
My Energy supplier has gone bust.
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I am pissed off with my electricity supplier, Octopus, over their refusal to answer any emails. I looked at changing but found the everyone that I looked at is more expensive. Dale Vince's Ecotricity is mind blowingly expensive, but all of them promise me higher bills and none of them answer emails, anyway. It seems to just not be done anymore. so I will stay with Octopus and concentrate my mind on cocking them about! The bonus is that I will feel no guilt!
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Well. Because I was mid way through switching from Avro to Green, when Avro ceased trading before my balance was transfered to Green, I had a small credit on my account I thought I had lost.
Then Green went bust.
Avro customers were transfered to Octopus, as I was a Green customer, I was transfered to Shell Energy, just to complicate things further.
I worte a mail to Octopus, Avro and Shell on the off chance I would ever see a bit of cash back. Octopus put me onto Avro, Avro didn't reply and Shell did nothing.
So I just forgot about it, until I got a mail last week from Octopus saying I would be receiving a refund and apologising for the delay due to my switching between suppliers. Then I got this today.
Now it's only the price of a night out, but betterer in my pocket than some energy giant. 
"Love & Power" - Octopus Energy.
Then Green went bust.
Avro customers were transfered to Octopus, as I was a Green customer, I was transfered to Shell Energy, just to complicate things further.
I worte a mail to Octopus, Avro and Shell on the off chance I would ever see a bit of cash back. Octopus put me onto Avro, Avro didn't reply and Shell did nothing.
So I just forgot about it, until I got a mail last week from Octopus saying I would be receiving a refund and apologising for the delay due to my switching between suppliers. Then I got this today.
Now it's only the price of a night out, but betterer in my pocket than some energy giant. "Love & Power" - Octopus Energy.
Has anyone been conned into having a smart meter ?
I don’t get how they can save you money, only advantage (if you want to call it that) is readings are done automatically.
Seems to me to just be something else using power and the wifi.
I don’t get how they can save you money, only advantage (if you want to call it that) is readings are done automatically.
Seems to me to just be something else using power and the wifi.
AnonymousUser1
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Also, how do they communicate with the supplier? Mt current shit provider is Octopus and they say that I can't have one - even if I did want one. When I looked at switching, yesterday, another said that it was complusolry. I queried this, as Octopus told me that I couldn't have one and they said that I really must but would not mind if I refused. I wondered if it was down to poor mobile signal that I have here?
And you can't switch to a small supplier!
AnonymousUser1
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Odd. I wonder why Octopus said that I couldn't have one and nobody mentioned having to have an internet connection. Anyway, doesn't matter as I don't care. I am pretty sure that when smart meters become widespread, it will be used as a tool to rip off customers!Internet connection I believe.
Must make it even easier to cut you off.
And require updating due to obsolescence
NO.Internet connection I believe.
Must make it even easier to cut you off.
The meter does not contain a 100A contactor.
A court order and site visit is required to cut the power.
Advice says otherwise, but I'm pretty sure of my statement above.
Just think about the safety issues..... if they could be remotely turned off... they could be remotely turned on... or the wrong one turned on
The disconnection process
If you don’t come to an agreement with your supplier to pay off your debt, they can apply to a court for a warrant to enter your home to disconnect your supply. Your supplier must send a notice telling you they’re applying to the court.Before the hearing takes place, contact your supplier and try and come to an agreement to pay off your debt.
If you haven’t contacted your supplier, there’ll be a court hearing which you should attend. You can still come to an arrangement with your supplier to pay off your debt at this stage. You can take along a friend for support.
If the court grants a warrant, your supplier will be able to disconnect your supply. They must give you 7 days notice in writing before they do. In practice, it’s rare for suppliers to disconnect customers. They’re more likely to fit a prepayment meter in your home.
Your supplier won’t need a warrant to disconnect a meter on the outside of your property (as the warrant is to enter your property), but most suppliers will still get one.
If you have a ‘smart meter’
If you have a smart energy meter in your home, your supplier could potentially disconnect your supply remotely without needing to access to your meter. However, before they do this, they must have:- contacted you to discuss options for repaying your debt, eg through a repayment plan
- visited your home to assess your personal situation and whether this would affect you being disconnected, eg if you’re disabled or elderly
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Pretty much every home in Ireland has a smart meter, or will do soon, we had ours installed in Dec. They’re being rolled out FOC to the consumer. No benefits as far as I csn see apart from telling you how much electricity your using, if you go online to look at it - can’t see how that’s a benefit myself, you either need to use the electricity or you don’t. It does mean the supply cos can stop having to pay for meter readers so a saving for them but not you or I.And require updating due to obsolescence
How do they connect back to base? Via the 2G phone network. Afaik, that’s due to be phased out soon so yes, a complete waste of money, underwritten by the Govt in the name of ‘Going Green’.
Another very important issue, which may or may not apply to one of our previous territories.
SMART meters are not allowed to be used by the new / smaller companies, as they are in a sort of sandbox.
These tend to be the companies that previously offered the very best rates.
AnonymousUser1
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I am going to hang tight until smart meters are made compulsory, or they can show me that I will make significant savings. I hear some shit ad on the radio from some company who reckon that you don't need a smart meter, but just an app on your phone. Is the average person too thick to know what devices use electricity and how much - like with irons, am I exceptional because I turn an iron on when I need it and then turn it off when I am finished with it? Do many people just leave them switched on all the time and then scowl when they see how much their electricity is costing them?
It is like my dieting. I find that it makes an exceptional difference to weigh myself multiple time per day - NOT!!!
It is like my dieting. I find that it makes an exceptional difference to weigh myself multiple time per day - NOT!!!
If you a newer meter with a flashing LED, you can have one of these... circa £60 and it will report to your smart home device or phone.
Alternatively you can use this near your distribution (fuse) board (we use this).
Use one clamp to measure everything, then say the other to the West Wing and the other to the East Wing or garden cottage / artist loft?
AnonymousUser1
Elite Member
"Greater awareness"? Like you will be shocked over how much electricity your iron uses? This shit will tell you to turn it off when you are finished, you DUMB SCHMUCK!!!!
You know you can take a horse to water, but sometimes you are better off borrowing the Vet's pistol.
AnonymousUser1
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And you save on feed and vets' bills!!!!
There is some serious price gouging activity out there by the energy companies.
just checked my "Standard Variable rate Tariff" which was
When I check to see if I can change to a fixed rate I'm informed the fixed rate til Feb 24 is
Unit rate 9.129p and 27.22p per day....
So they are expecting a sizeable rise ....
just checked my "Standard Variable rate Tariff" which was
Gas unit rate: 7.480p per kWh Daily standing charge: 27.22p per day |
When I check to see if I can change to a fixed rate I'm informed the fixed rate til Feb 24 is
Unit rate 9.129p and 27.22p per day....
So they are expecting a sizeable rise ....
E.ON
Your prices.
What you're paying now Your new prices from 1 April 2022
Electricity 2000002686519
Standing charge (per day) 24.112p will now be 43.394p
Unit rate - Day (per kWh) 20.680p will now be 28.455p
If you have a smart meter and we can get a reading from it, we'll use this to work out your usage before and after the price increase date.
If not, we’ll estimate your usage up to 1 April at the old prices, and from then onwards at the new prices, to calculate your bill.
Your prices.
What you're paying now Your new prices from 1 April 2022
Electricity 2000002686519
Standing charge (per day) 24.112p will now be 43.394p
Unit rate - Day (per kWh) 20.680p will now be 28.455p
If you have a smart meter and we can get a reading from it, we'll use this to work out your usage before and after the price increase date.
If not, we’ll estimate your usage up to 1 April at the old prices, and from then onwards at the new prices, to calculate your bill.
an almost 100% increase in the daily standing charge
, is that just so they can keep a lid on the per unit charge?
A standing charge is added to most gas and electricity bills. It's a fixed daily amount that you have to pay, no matter how much energy you use.
A standing charge covers the cost of supplying your property with gas and electricity. Think of it as a line rental, but for your energy.
Somehow the cost of getting electricity to my home has doubled?
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Why has Standing Charge cost more than doubled?
I was just trying to check my tariff and the only easy way of doing it is to look at the bill for the full breakdown. What I was surprised at is currently my service charge is 10.96p per day, but if I take one of the offered replacement tariffs (which they suggest to me) it has jumped up to...
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